D4L Thoughts on Liberty – 11/5/2014

by Chuck Donovan

Happy Guy Fawlkes Day!

Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot…”

It’s not what you mean to do.  It’s what you do.  from “V for Vendetta”



Terms And Conditions May Apply”  You need to see this well done documentary to understand how much information the government has on you personally and what a near and present threat it is to all of us.

The movie frightened me.  Therefore I offer the following quote: “Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty” – John Basil Barnhill, 1912

“…make sure that we can stop terrorists while maintaining privacy and liberty of innocent Americans.  We have to find a way to give the President the power to protect us while making sure that he doesn’t abuse that power.”

“…that simple principle that there’s somebody watching the watcher; whether that’s on an issue of freedom of the press or it’s an issue of warrentless wiretaps.  That simple principle is one that we can’t give up and we don’t have to give up.”

Video documentation for both of the above quotes is in the movie.  Both of the quotes were spoken by then Senator Barak Obama while he campaigned for President.  He now holds the dubious honor of being the President who holds the record for the most prosecutions against whistleblowers, more than all other US Presidential regimes combined, and presides over and NSA that is clearly out of control.

Shame on you Mr. Obama, and shame on all of us who made the very big mistake of trusting you.  You are now part of the problem, not part of the solution.



GeorgiaCarry.Org‘s Vice-President and Roswell Attorney John Monroe:

“The Reverend Jesse Jackson, through the Rainbow Push Coalition has filed a lawsuit against the state of Georgia (Governor Nathan Deal and Attorney General Sam Olens).  This lawsuit is similar to the lawsuit filed in August, 2012 by the Reverend Markel Hutchins and once again challenges Georgia’s stand your ground law. ” 

Let’s be honest. Jesse Jackson cares more about taking away your right to self defense than he cares about a “stand your ground” law.  This is an excuse to further disarm you.  

The Rainbow Push coalition is claiming they have “standing” because they have been hurt by the time they spent filing this suit.  Ridiculous doesn’t begin to put a point on this.

Forget “stand your ground”.  Just how far would the Reverend want me to retreat before he would consider it legitimate for me to defend myself and my family against an attacker?  Give me a number.  How far would he retreat?  

I say “the Reverend” should not have to retreat 1 millimeter and anyone who attacks him or his should know that.

Would he give me and mine the same right?



If the US has been at war with drugs since 1971, why are we still setting records in the amount of drugs the government is discovering?  It has been 42 years!  At what point do we admit defeat and say it’s time for Plan B?

“Opium and morphine are certainly dangerous, habit-forming drugs. But once the principle is admitted that it is the duty of the government to protect the individual against his own foolishness, no serious objections can be advanced against further encroachments … Is not the harm a man can inflict on his mind and soul even more disastrous than any bodily evils? Why not prevent him from reading bad books and bad plays, from looking at bad paintings and statues and from hearing bad music? The mischief done by bad ideologies, surely, is much more pernicious both for the individual and for the whole society, than that done by narcotic drugs.” – from Human Action, by Ludwig Von Mises


“…according to the 2013 Afghanistan Opium Survey released Wednesday by the United Nations… …cultivation of poppy across the war-torn nation rose 36 per cent in 2013 and total opium production amounted to 5,500 tons, up by almost a half since 2012.

‘This has never been witnessed before in the history of Afghanistan,’ said Jean-Luc Lemahieu, the outgoing leader of the Afghanistan office of the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, which produced the report.”

The way to help people on drugs is not to hold a gun to their heads and put them in jail.  You would not do that to someone with an alcohol problem.  Why do it to people with a drug problem.  I’m sorry to break this to you, but the government isn’t going to solve this problem.  You are going to have to embrace them in your community and help them get away from the poisons in their life.  You are also going to have to stop being afraid of letting freedom win.



A smuggling tunnel running from Tijuana in Mexico to San Diego in theUnited States, equipped with lighting, ventilation and an electric rail system, has been uncovered by US authorities.

Authorities who found the underground network seized 8.5 tonnes of marijuana and 148kg (327lb) of cocaine. The tunnel – dug 11 metres (35 feet) underground, 1.3 metres high and 1 metre wide – was shut down before the drugs could be distributed. [allegedly]

… length of nearly six football fields, links warehouses in Tijuana and San Diego’s Otay Mesa – an industrial area filled with nondescript warehouses, convenient for loading trucks…

As US border security has heightened on land, Mexican drug cartels have turned to ultralight aircraft, small fishing boats and tunnels to smuggle drugs. More than 75 underground passages have been discovered along the border since 2008, designed largely to smuggle marijuana.

In November 2011, authorities found a 500-metre tunnel that resulted in seizures of 32 tonnes of marijuana on both sides of the border, with 26 tonnes found on the US side, accounting for one of the largest busts in US history.”


This is happening right here in America.  Many of you think you don’t have to worry about the law and overeager law enforcers because you are doing nothing wrong and have nothing to hide.  These acts of “civil forfeiture” are being perpetrated upon innocent Americans as the result of the so-called “Patriot Act”, the so-called “War on Terror”, the so-called “War on Drugs”, and because of the militarization of our police.  The police are no longer the friendly Andy of Mayberry types.  They are now militarized, armored, hardened, impassive, clannish, and looking for an excuse to turn the law on you.

Nov. 2, 2013 | From the print edition of The Economist
Civil forfeiture: The grabbing hand of the law
How prosecutors seize the assets of the innocent

“The names of court cases usually make sense. Think of “US v Bernard Madoff” or“US v Timothy McVeigh”. What, then, is “US v $35,651.11”? Why is Uncle Sam prosecuting a heap of money?

The answer, alas, makes even less sense than the name on the docket. Terry Dehko and his daughter Sandy Thomas (pictured) run a grocery store in Fraser, Michigan. It sells everything from bread to hand-made sausages. Fairly often, someone takes cash from the till and puts it in the bank across the street. Deposits are nearly always less than $10,000, because the insurance covers the theft of cash only up to that sum.

In January, without warning, the government seized all the money in the shop account: more than $35,000. The charge was that the Dehkos had violated federal money-laundering rules, which forbid people to “structure” their bank deposits so as to avoid the $10,000 threshold that triggers banks to report a transaction to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

Prosecutors offered no evidence that the Dehkos were laundering money or dodging tax. Indeed, the IRS gave their business a clean bill of health last year. But still, the Dehkos cannot get their cash back. “They offered us 20%,” says Ms Thomas, “But if we settle, it looks like we’re guilty of something, which we’re not.”

In criminal cases, the government can confiscate assets only after a conviction. Under “civil forfeiture”, however, it can grab first and ask questions later. Property can be seized merely on the suspicion that it has been involved in a crime. Citizens have no right to a swift hearing. For a small business, that can be fatal. The Dehkos’ store is surviving by paying suppliers late.

In many civil-forfeiture cases the agencies that seize the assets keep most of the proceeds, and can use them to pad their budgets or buy faster patrol cars. It is hard to know how common this is, but the Institute for Justice (a libertarian law firm that is representing the Dehkos) notes that the federal government shared $450m of seized assets with state and local authorities in 2012.

The grabbers do not always prevail. A motel owner in Massachusetts recently won back his motel after prosecutors tried to seize it because one guest in 13,000 had been arrested for drug offences. In October in California, prosecutors who were trying to seize a building because two of the tenants were marijuana dispensaries (which are legal under Californian law), gave up and let the landlord keep it.

But this is scant comfort for the Dehkos, who are struggling to hold on to the store they have run since 1978. “It’s kind of scary that they can do this to you,” says Ms Thomas. “In America, you’re supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.””

Civil forfeiture needs to stop.

Being afraid of freedom also needs to stop.